### Reasoning Circular Out Seating Arrangement Puzzle [High Level]

L, N, P, R, M, Q, T and Y are the members of a committee sitting around a circular table but not facing the centre. Each member has a different zodiac sign, viz Leo, Virgo, Libra, Cancer, Aries, Gemini, Pisces and Scorpio, but not necessarily in the same order. T is third to the right of P. The one whose sun-sign Leo is second to the left of the one whose sun-sign is Libra.
Y's sun-sign is Libra and is sitting exactly between P and L. The one whose sun-sign is Pisces sits second to the right of N. The one whose sun-sign is Aries is second to the right of the person whose sun-sign is Gemini. P sits third to the left of the person whose sun-sign is Virgo. Neither Q nor L is the immediate neighbour of N. Q is fourth to the left of L. N's sun-sign is neither Cancer nor Ariel. The person whose sun-sign is Leo is sitting second to the right of the person whose sign is Cancer. R’s sun-sign is Leo and is not an immediate neighbor of N.

1. Which of the following is N’s sun-sign?
a) Pisces
b) Scorpio
c) Gemini
d) Can't be determined
e) None of these

2. Who sits third to the right of L?
a) P
b) Y
c) R
d) Q
e) None of these

3. What is Y's position with respect to Q?
a) Third to the left
b) Fourth to the left
c) Second to the right
d) Third to the right
e) 2nd to the left

4. How many persons are there between P and N?
a) None
b) Two
c) Three
d) Four
e) None of these

5. What is the sun-sign of P?
a) Gemini
b) Libra
c) Leo
d) Can't be determined
e) None of these

6. Which of the following combinations is true?
a) M-Gemini
b) P-Cancer
c) N-Scorpio
d) None is true
e)All are true

1. B
2. E
3. D
4. C
5. A
6. C

1. Hi,
I'm new to Reasoning and competitive exams. I'm having difficulty to understand how the above problem was worked out. If possible could you please provide a Step-By-Step explanation of how to map the above.

Thanks.

1. Hi David,

2. Awesome, Thank you very much.

3. You are welcome and All the Very Best for your success

4. how can we solve syllogism problem ?

5. this is very good question...provide more question related to blood relation with sitting arrangement

2. Hi,
Please provide some solutions on both in and out circular seating arrangement with tricks.

1. Hi,
Have you referred the below link which I already posted in above comment

3. Harish GundagiMay 25, 2015 6:07 pm

Sir/Madam, Could you pls explain how to approch these 2 entities problems in circular arrangement. I have gone through your previous post. It is Awesome.

1. Hi Harish,
I will try to provide the explanation you asked, give me some time for that.

Regards,
Harshini

4. sir/mam,In the above problem could you please explain (p-gemini,l-aries.n-scorpio), because there is also chance for (p,l,n=scorpio , gemini ,aries)..as there is no hint of scorpio is given.thanks in advance

1. It is given that N can't be Ares in the 3rd sentence from last.

5. hiii you are providing good examples but im expecting more examples

1. Hi,
Thank you...
There are so many examples here search them in "Feeling Lost" with appropriate names.
Still got any problem comment here I will respond to you ASAP

6. will post the steps for solving this problem in sometime.

7. Initial:
Draw a circle with eight empty boxes. And name the empty boxes as 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8 ( I am naming them in numbers in anti-clockwise direction just to explain where to place the persons; as I cant draw the circle for each step).

Tip: Mark the left and right postions for each person box with notations “l” and “r”. Doing so, it would save some time solving the problem.

Note: Draw the solution in a paper for each step, otherwise understanding the answer will be difficult

Step 1:
From the question, we can place two persons rightaway, that is Leo and Libra.
Ques: The one whose sun-sign Leo is second to the left of the one whose sun-sign is Libra.
Put Libra in box 1. (Libra can be placed in any box; but to start, I place him in box 1)
Now Leo sits second to the left of Libra,

Leo is in box 3.

Step 2:
Ques: Y's sun-sign is Libra and is sitting exactly between P and L.

Y is Libra, so Y is in box 1.
Block the boxes 8 and 2 for P and L.

Step 3:

Ques: R’s sun-sign is Leo and is not an immediate neighbor of N. The person whose sun-sign is Leo is sitting second to the right of the person whose sign is Cancer
R is Leo and is in box 3.
Leo is second to right of Cancer.
Hence put Cancer in box 5.

Step 4:
Ques: N's sun-sign is neither Cancer nor Ariel. The one whose sun-sign is Pisces sits second to the right of N. R’s sun-sign is Leo and is not an immediate neighbor of N.
Now we will try to place N.
Filled boxes so far: Y in box 1, R in box 3, P or L in box 2 or 8, Cancer in 5.
So N can sit in 4 or 6 or 7.

N can’t sit in 4 , as R is not an immediate neighbor of N
N can’t sit in 7, as the second to its right is Cancer

So N sits in box 6 and Pisces sits in box 4.

Step 5:
Ques: P sits third to the left of the person whose sun-sign is Virgo.

Now we will try to place P. We have blocked the boxes 8 and 2 for P and L(in previous steps)
P can sit in 8 or 2.

If P sits in 8, it becomes third to the left of Cancer who is in box 5.

Hence P sits in box 2 and L sits in box 8. (as Y sits between P and L)
And Virgo sits in box 7.

Step 6:
Ques: T is third to the right of P. Q is fourth to the left of L.

Since we placed P and L,
now T sits in box 7 and is a Virgo. Q sits in box 4 and is a Pisces.

Step 7:

We placed all persons except M. hence M sits in box 5 and is a Cancer.

Step 8:
Ques: . N's sun-sign is neither Cancer nor Aries. Aries is second to the right of the person whose sun-sign is Gemini.

We placed all signs except Aries, Gemini and Scorpio
.
N can’t be Aries. Hence N must be Gemini or Scorpio.
If N is Gemini, then Aries cant be the second to its right. As N’s second to its right is Pisces(already solved).
So N is a Scorpio.

Step 9:
Ques: . The one whose sun-sign is Aries is second to the right of the person whose sun-sign is Gemini.

Only two boxes 8 and 2 are empty with no sign. Based on the above question,
L is Aries in box 8 and Gemini is P in box 2.

Final Solution
Box – Person – Sign
1 – Y – Libra
2 – P – Gemini
3 – R –Leo
4 – Q – Pisces
5 – M – Cancer
6 – N – Scorpio
7 – T – Virgo
8 – L -Aries

1. Hi Angel,
You are really an Angel for me...
Thanks for this again... :-D

2. Hi, I have only one issue in approaching this. Here in this question, the positions of T,P & Leo, Libra are confirmed. So, how did you chose Leo,Libra to start with? Why not T,P?
Pls explain. Thank you.

3. good explanation angel thank you very much

4. Hi Sibivel, read the question at a glance completely. You will always find you can place two persons rightaway.

In this question, you can see there are many related relations to Leo and Libra. Thats y we choose Leo and Libra. Find the person whose name appears many times in the ques.

5. Well done Angel... that was spot on.

6. thnx for the solution

8. sir/madam its very good e.g but i took 3 mins to crack it was that good or slow .
i mean how much time sould it take to crack 1 question?

1. Hi Anuj,
3 Mins is not slow you are good, keep it up...

Time taken depends on persons and practice Anuj we can't say exactly about it.
Some might be good at Reasoning but takes more time in English or any other topic. But my advice is keep practising more on which you are not good at, so that, it will become like child's play to solve.
"Practice Makes Perfect" right...

9. could you please explain how do we use "who" in seating arrangement?

1. "Who" refers to immediate preceeding person.
For ex: P who faces centre sits third to right of V.
Here "Who" refers to "P"

10. Damn gud Angel mam :)

11. Hello sir I am finding difficultly in this kind of question plz explane the whole process in detail

12. thanks angel

13. hi angel this trick
it is posible when facing outside or inside in

14. hi angel this trick is possible for facing inside or outside

1. Champ, Yes it is. The method to solve the problem is the same. The "Left" and "Right" for persons facing inside and outside will be different. Note that in the diagram . You will be able to crack it.

15. Well,feels like salvation to see these solutions,isn't it heaven for seating arrangement puzzles,and thr are angels also lol
A hearty thanks to stephen and to you too harshini,tomorrwo I hav ibps po prelims exam,and definitely this site is a confidence booster

1. Thank you Brijesh varma and ALL THE VERY BEST for your exams

2. Thanx and it went off well,but thr is a prblm,I hav ssc cgl tier-2 on 25 and ibps po mains on 31st...so I think I definitely need more good wishes and luck :-D

3. Congrats for getting through tier 1 ssc and More best wishes for these two exams Brijesh

4. Thanx,needed that :)

16. In your blog you have mentioned that when the direction is outward from the center,we should go clockwise for right ..here T is the third to the right of R.. but in your solution you have taken anticlockwise direction .. Please explain!!

1. Hi Supriya,
somehow you have mistaken here it is not R T is the third to the right of P
check again...

17. high level resoning practice set

18. this looks easy as there are only two entities are involved . . i mean the aphabets and their zodiac signs . . how to approach if three entities are given , like 7 seven lecturers , taking lectures on 7 different days and wear seven diffent colours of dresses . . can u pls sovle an example for it . .

19. This could've been a little harder if people were facing in different directions. What is the minimum time taken to solve this puzzle? Is 5 minutes along with solutions okay or too long?

1. 5 mins is not a bad timing but try reducing this 5 mins also

20. i solved this question but after taking too much time............

1. Everything will be fine Navneet...Just keep practising you will definitely improvement.
All the Best

21. Mam/sir i m from hindi medium so pls can u give me some difficult question in hindi language

22. Please provide tricks for some facing centre and some outwards..

23. mam goodmorning how can i get all your study material

24. Was it an hard one?

25. Ty angel.. Its really helpful

26. very well explained harshini
i take more than 10 min to solve these kind of problems
could u pls provide some ques of this type for practice.
thnxx